I agree - rigged
Posted by Stephen Peterson from Spain on Apr 30, 2008 at 3:44am (CDT)
I agree with you all - PokerStars is rigged and is designed to be impossible to win at. I started playing at PokerStrars about 6 months ago. I am a solid player, and have enjoyed a winning rate at brick and morter casinos in Arizona for the past couple of years. I moved to Barcelona so was forced to start playing on line. Anyway, I signed up with PokerStars, deposited some $$$, and started playing. Like playing in real life, I was winning 2-3 BB/ hour. At the point where I had almost doubled my original deposit, somethig happend: I started not being able to get a hand, and when I did finally get something, it kept getting busted by crap starting hands. OK, I thought, just getting the bad end of players sucking out on me.
Well, I deposited again.. guess what? Same pattern. Deposited a third time. Again same pattern. By now, I'm starting to get a bit suspicious, but again I gave Pokerstars the benifit of the doubt. I thought I was running bad, and just a victim of an unnormal share of bad beats.
I deposited again, same thing happened.
I isolated the stats in PokerTracker and noticed what I was begining to suspect: the "bait & hook" scam. PokerStars lets you win imediataly after depositing, but the pots you win are relatively small. After a certain threshold (I'm not quite sure what it is, but it looks like right around doubling you depostit), the losing streak starts. The group one hands that were winning suddenly start losing to bad beats. But the differe
ence is the $$$ you lose is MORE than what you won with the same hands. Add that to the blinds you lose because you don't have decent cards to defend and that spells "GOING BROKE"! This pattern has repeated itself 6 times!!!! And I have the stats to prove it.
Last night was the last staw. I had taken a $60 deposit and built it up to $101 on the $1-2 Fixed limit tables. During my "winning streak" I won with normal hands, but when I had AA or KK.. seemed like everyone always folded preflop or at flop. Pots I won had an average of 5BB or $10.. Anyway - boiled down to a 2.3 BB/ hour win rate which is perfectly normal for a solid player.
Sat down last night and...
AA lost to a 5-3 suited taht pulled a flush
KK lost to a j-9 off suit that pulled a straight on river
I agree with you all - PokerStars is rigged and is designed to be impossible to win at. I started playing at PokerStrars about 6 months ago. I am a solid player, and have enjoyed a winning rate at brick and morter casinos in Arizona for the past couple of years. I moved to Barcelona so was forced to start playing on line. Anyway, I signed up with PokerStars, deposited some $$$, and started playing. Like playing in real life, I was winning 2-3 BB/ hour. At the point where I had almost doubled my original deposit, somethig happend: I started not being able to get a hand, and when I did finally get something, it kept getting busted by crap starting hands. OK, I thought, just getting the bad end of players sucking out on me.
Well, I deposited again.. guess what? Same pattern. Deposited a third time. Again same pattern. By now, I'm starting to get a bit suspicious, but again I gave Pokerstars the benifit of the doubt. I thought I was running bad, and just a victim of an unnormal share of bad beats.
I deposited again, same thing happened.
I isolated the stats in PokerTracker and noticed what I was begining to suspect: the "bait & hook" scam. PokerStars lets you win imediataly after depositing, but the pots you win are relatively small. After a certain threshold (I'm not quite sure what it is, but it looks like right around doubling you depostit), the losing streak starts. The group one hands that were winning suddenly start losing to bad beats. But the differe
ence is the $$$ you lose is MORE than what you won with the same hands. Add that to the blinds you lose because you don't have decent cards to defend and that spells "GOING BROKE"! This pattern has repeated itself 6 times!!!! And I have the stats to prove it.
Last night was the last staw. I had taken a $60 deposit and built it up to $101 on the $1-2 Fixed limit tables. During my "winning streak" I won with normal hands, but when I had AA or KK.. seemed like everyone always folded preflop or at flop. Pots I won had an average of 5BB or $10.. Anyway - boiled down to a 2.3 BB/ hour win rate which is perfectly normal for a solid player.
Sat down last night and...
AA lost to a 5-3 suited taht pulled a flush
KK lost to a j-9 off suit that pulled a straight on river*
QQ lost to a j-9 off suit that pulled a straight on river*
* to the EXACT same player!
Lost set over set of 8's to set of Kings on turn
Set of J's lost to a set of Q's on river.
AK two pair lost to 7-5 off suite that pulled a 2 sevens , one on flop other on river! (This is interesting becasue I raised pre-flop, and bet the hell out of my flopped 2 pair, and this guys kept betting: like he "knew" he was going to win

Anyway, on those hands I got my money in the pot like any normal player and I pretty much lost my $40 win, plus my $60 depsosit..

We all have bad beats, but I have NEVER had so many than on PokerStars.
Let's face it - the software is designed so you simply in the long run can not win.

  I agree - rigged
Posted by Stephen Peterson from Spain on Apr 30, 2008 at 3:43am (CDT)
I agree with you all - PokerStars is rigged and is designed to be impossible to win at. I started playing at PokerStrars about 6 months ago. I am a solid player, and have enjoyed a winning rate at brick and morter casinos in Arizona for the past couple of years. I moved to Barcelona so was forced to start playing on line. Anyway, I signed up with PokerStars, deposited some $$$, and started playing. Like playing in real life, I was winning 2-3 BB/ hour. At the point where I had almost doubled my original deposit, somethig happend: I started not being able to get a hand, and when I did finally get something, it kept getting busted by crap starting hands. OK, I thought, just getting the bad end of players sucking out on me.
Well, I deposited again.. guess what? Same pattern. Deposited a third time. Again same pattern. By now, I'm starting to get a bit suspicious, but again I gave Pokerstars the benifit of the doubt. I thought I was running bad, and just a victim of an unnormal share of bad beats.
I deposited again, same thing happened.
I isolated the stats in PokerTracker and noticed what I was begining to suspect: the "bait & hook" scam. PokerStars lets you win imediataly after depositing, but the pots you win are relatively small. After a certain threshold (I'm not quite sure what it is, but it looks like right around doubling you depostit), the losing streak starts. The group one hands that were winning suddenly start losing to bad beats. But the differe
ence is the $$$ you lose is MORE than what you won with the same hands. Add that to the blinds you lose because you don't have decent cards to defend and that spells "GOING BROKE"! This pattern has repeated itself 6 times!!!! And I have the stats to prove it.
Last night was the last staw. I had taken a $60 deposit and built it up to $101 on the $1-2 Fixed limit tables. During my "winning streak" I won with normal hands, but when I had AA or KK.. seemed like everyone always folded preflop or at flop. Pots I won had an average of 5BB or $10.. Anyway - boiled down to a 2.3 BB/ hour win rate which is perfectly normal for a solid player.
Sat down last night and...
AA lost to a 5-3 suited taht pulled a flush
KK lost to a j-9 off suit that pulled a straight on river
I agree with you all - PokerStars is rigged and is designed to be impossible to win at. I started playing at PokerStrars about 6 months ago. I am a solid player, and have enjoyed a winning rate at brick and morter casinos in Arizona for the past couple of years. I moved to Barcelona so was forced to start playing on line. Anyway, I signed up with PokerStars, deposited some $$$, and started playing. Like playing in real life, I was winning 2-3 BB/ hour. At the point where I had almost doubled my original deposit, somethig happend: I started not being able to get a hand, and when I did finally get something, it kept getting busted by crap starting hands. OK, I thought, just getting the bad end of players sucking out on me.
Well, I deposited again.. guess what? Same pattern. Deposited a third time. Again same pattern. By now, I'm starting to get a bit suspicious, but again I gave Pokerstars the benifit of the doubt. I thought I was running bad, and just a victim of an unnormal share of bad beats.
I deposited again, same thing happened.
I isolated the stats in PokerTracker and noticed what I was begining to suspect: the "bait & hook" scam. PokerStars lets you win imediataly after depositing, but the pots you win are relatively small. After a certain threshold (I'm not quite sure what it is, but it looks like right around doubling you depostit), the losing streak starts. The group one hands that were winning suddenly start losing to bad beats. But the differe
ence is the $$$ you lose is MORE than what you won with the same hands. Add that to the blinds you lose because you don't have decent cards to defend and that spells "GOING BROKE"! This pattern has repeated itself 6 times!!!! And I have the stats to prove it.
Last night was the last staw. I had taken a $60 deposit and built it up to $101 on the $1-2 Fixed limit tables. During my "winning streak" I won with normal hands, but when I had AA or KK.. seemed like everyone always folded preflop or at flop. Pots I won had an average of 5BB or $10.. Anyway - boiled down to a 2.3 BB/ hour win rate which is perfectly normal for a solid player.
Sat down last night and...
AA lost to a 5-3 suited taht pulled a flush
KK lost to a j-9 off suit that pulled a straight on river*
QQ lost to a j-9 off suit that pulled a straight on river*
* to the EXACT same player!
Lost set over set of 8's to set of Kings on turn
Set of J's lost to a set of Q's on river.
AK two pair lost to 7-5 off suite that pulled a 2 sevens , one on flop other on river! (This is interesting becasue I raised pre-flop, and bet the hell out of my flopped 2 pair, and this guys kept betting: like he "knew" he was going to win

Anyway, on those hands I got my money in the pot like any normal player and I pretty much lost my $40 win, plus my $60 depsosit..

We all have bad beats, but I have NEVER had so many than on PokerStars.
Let's face it - the software is designed so you simply in the long run can not win.

  I agree - rigged
Posted by Stephen Peterson from Spain on Apr 30, 2008 at 3:43am (CDT)
I agree with you all - PokerStars is rigged and is designed to be impossible to win at. I started playing at PokerStrars about 6 months ago. I am a solid player, and have enjoyed a winning rate at brick and morter casinos in Arizona for the past couple of years. I moved to Barcelona so was forced to start playing on line. Anyway, I signed up with PokerStars, deposited some $$$, and started playing. Like playing in real life, I was winning 2-3 BB/ hour. At the point where I had almost doubled my original deposit, somethig happend: I started not being able to get a hand, and when I did finally get something, it kept getting busted by crap starting hands. OK, I thought, just getting the bad end of players sucking out on me.
Well, I deposited again.. guess what? Same pattern. Deposited a third time. Again same pattern. By now, I'm starting to get a bit suspicious, but again I gave Pokerstars the benifit of the doubt. I thought I was running bad, and just a victim of an unnormal share of bad beats.
I deposited again, same thing happened.
I isolated the stats in PokerTracker and noticed what I was begining to suspect: the "bait & hook" scam. PokerStars lets you win imediataly after depositing, but the pots you win are relatively small. After a certain threshold (I'm not quite sure what it is, but it looks like right around doubling you depostit), the losing streak starts. The group one hands that were winning suddenly start losing to bad beats. But the differe
ence is the $$$ you lose is MORE than what you won with the same hands. Add that to the blinds you lose because you don't have decent cards to defend and that spells "GOING BROKE"! This pattern has repeated itself 6 times!!!! And I have the stats to prove it.
Last night was the last staw. I had taken a $60 deposit and built it up to $101 on the $1-2 Fixed limit tables. During my "winning streak" I won with normal hands, but when I had AA or KK.. seemed like everyone always folded preflop or at flop. Pots I won had an average of 5BB or $10.. Anyway - boiled down to a 2.3 BB/ hour win rate which is perfectly normal for a solid player.
Sat down last night and...
AA lost to a 5-3 suited taht pulled a flush
KK lost to a j-9 off suit that pulled a straight on river
I agree with you all - PokerStars is rigged and is designed to be impossible to win at. I started playing at PokerStrars about 6 months ago. I am a solid player, and have enjoyed a winning rate at brick and morter casinos in Arizona for the past couple of years. I moved to Barcelona so was forced to start playing on line. Anyway, I signed up with PokerStars, deposited some $$$, and started playing. Like playing in real life, I was winning 2-3 BB/ hour. At the point where I had almost doubled my original deposit, somethig happend: I started not being able to get a hand, and when I did finally get something, it kept getting busted by crap starting hands. OK, I thought, just getting the bad end of players sucking out on me.
Well, I deposited again.. guess what? Same pattern. Deposited a third time. Again same pattern. By now, I'm starting to get a bit suspicious, but again I gave Pokerstars the benifit of the doubt. I thought I was running bad, and just a victim of an unnormal share of bad beats.
I deposited again, same thing happened.
I isolated the stats in PokerTracker and noticed what I was begining to suspect: the "bait & hook" scam. PokerStars lets you win imediataly after depositing, but the pots you win are relatively small. After a certain threshold (I'm not quite sure what it is, but it looks like right around doubling you depostit), the losing streak starts. The group one hands that were winning suddenly start losing to bad beats. But the differe
ence is the $$$ you lose is MORE than what you won with the same hands. Add that to the blinds you lose because you don't have decent cards to defend and that spells "GOING BROKE"! This pattern has repeated itself 6 times!!!! And I have the stats to prove it.
Last night was the last staw. I had taken a $60 deposit and built it up to $101 on the $1-2 Fixed limit tables. During my "winning streak" I won with normal hands, but when I had AA or KK.. seemed like everyone always folded preflop or at flop. Pots I won had an average of 5BB or $10.. Anyway - boiled down to a 2.3 BB/ hour win rate which is perfectly normal for a solid player.
Sat down last night and...
AA lost to a 5-3 suited taht pulled a flush
KK lost to a j-9 off suit that pulled a straight on river*
QQ lost to a j-9 off suit that pulled a straight on river*
* to the EXACT same player!
Lost set over set of 8's to set of Kings on turn
Set of J's lost to a set of Q's on river.
AK two pair lost to 7-5 off suite that pulled a 2 sevens , one on flop other on river! (This is interesting becasue I raised pre-flop, and bet the hell out of my flopped 2 pair, and this guys kept betting: like he "knew" he was going to win

Anyway, on those hands I got my money in the pot like any normal player and I pretty much lost my $40 win, plus my $60 depsosit..

We all have bad beats, but I have NEVER had so many than on PokerStars.
Let's face it - the software is designed so you simply in the long run can not win.